{"id":6968,"date":"2021-08-10T11:10:17","date_gmt":"2021-08-10T01:10:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mnygroup.wpengine.com\/?p=6968"},"modified":"2025-02-01T18:46:37","modified_gmt":"2025-02-01T07:46:37","slug":"trust-losses-keeping-them-in-the-family","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/trust-losses-keeping-them-in-the-family\/","title":{"rendered":"Trust losses: Keeping them in the family"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-text-color has-background has-white-background-color has-white-color\"\/>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-preformatted\">Who can (and can\u2019t) be part a family group for the purpose of making a family trust election (FTE)?<\/pre>\n\n\n\n<p>As you can see by the diagram on the following page, the \u2018family group\u2019 is dependent on the choice of the \u2018test individual\u2019. Once that person is chosen, the family group includes the person\u2019s spouse, plus any of their children, grandchildren, parents, grand- parents, brothers, sisters, nephews, or nieces. The spouses of any of these people are also included.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"679\" src=\"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_4_Image_0001-1024x679.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6969\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_4_Image_0001-1024x679.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_4_Image_0001-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_4_Image_0001-768x509.jpg 768w, https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_4_Image_0001-1536x1018.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_4_Image_0001-2048x1357.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The family group can include a de facto spouse, stepchildren and half-brothers and half-sisters, but<br>not aunts and uncles, cousins, great-grandchildren, or stepbrothers and stepsisters. The spouse of a deceased test individual will continue as a member, but not if they partner up again. And where a married test individual is divorced, the family group membership of their former spouse is ended. However, the former spouse is still in the family group in relation to distributions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Importantly, if the test individual dies, the trust remains a family trust and the family group continues to be worked out by reference to the test individual.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Where an FTE is made, the rules that limit the deductibility of prior year and current year losses and bad debt deductions are much less onerous. Only the income injection rule applies, and then only where a person outside the family group is involved. Otherwise, there is also a 50% stake test, a control test and a pattern of distribution test that have to be satisfied.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Having an FTE also relaxes the company loss tracing rules, the holding period governing access to franking credits and the application of the trust beneficiary reporting rules.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Keep the diagram handy when confirming who the beneficiaries of a family trust can be, without paying family trust distributions tax.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1017\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_5-1017x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6971\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_5-1017x1024.jpg 1017w, https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_5-298x300.jpg 298w, https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_5-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_5-768x774.jpg 768w, https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_5-1525x1536.jpg 1525w, https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/MNY-August-2021_Page_5.jpg 1653w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1017px) 100vw, 1017px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\"><em>This information has been prepared without taking into account your objectives, financial situation or needs. Because of this, you should, before acting on this information, consider its appropriateness, having regard to your objectives, financial situation or needs.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":6970,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1691],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6968","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-business-tax","masonry-post","generate-columns","tablet-grid-50","mobile-grid-100","grid-parent","grid-20"],"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6968","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/18"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6968"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6968\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6970"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6968"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6968"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mnygroup.com.au\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6968"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}